Jeff is right on. Except you do have to booger it up with a bunch of paint and tape in order to catch any fish with them thingys. ... Not! smile They are one of the best salmon/steelhead lures to ever come down the pike. (pike - get the hint for trolling all those lakes Hawk?) In tiger stripped or crawfish patterns I'd bet they would take those big toothy critters. Good for big bass too. As for the biggest size Magnum Warts, they may work for the big ones out on Lake Michigan with downriggers. But probably not as good as the Coyote Spoons - right Jeff? wink