Whoa Bruce, That's gnarly dude. Cough cough. wink Don't Bogart those FS83-C's. Heh heh. I'd like to call Outdoor Emporium before I run down & buy one but I'd have to cash in some empty beer cans 1st, as I just got a lay off notice & might be hard up for some cash. I think those rods are worth every penny, cuz they're not in the $100-$300 range, another bonus. Maybe if I could sell my old truck ('78 3/4 t 350 2WD GMC w/canopy & no rust $2000.OBO). Cough cough.......Ear laugh