Hello again Rockfish, WhatI have done in the past is take my old sinking line, cut it into sections from 1' to 4' and make my own loops. It is very time consuming but worth the trouble when the fish start getting finicky and want their food in a paticular water column. To make the loops get some laquer thinner and Daves flexament,nailknot tool. Stip both ends of the line with the thinner to the lines core(careful not to overcook)peel off the gooey coating, then make a loop on both ends with nail knot tool,and build up new coating by applying several layers of flexament. Hope this helps!