Trailrat77 you're right i do want to fish of the beach. Who ever hasn't tried fishin' off the clay banks on a minus tide you're missing out. Standing on the edge of the bank, i've seen huge balls off herring not even a foot away from me and a couple years back a big octopus decided he was coming up the bank to visit, scared the hell outta couple anglers that wasn't expecting it.

Thanx for all the posts, at least now i have an idea why the opener keeps being pushed back.