i shoulnt have said i dont catch fish i just cant seem to get them on the bank. i fight em and its greatbut my hook always gets spit or shaken out i can get em on the line not all the time but sometimes I appreciate the responses and look forward to more advice on steelhead or salmon like when exactly are the runs summer winter fall spring i fish the clackamas ive caught a 20 lb chinook and a 15 lb nook 20 was a little dark but the 15 had a lot better color thanks again for the help