Do you use barbed or barbless hooks? Seems that size 2 or 4 hooks may be a little on the small side. Do they spit the hook? What color yarn do you use? I've been using heavier test 17 and 14 lb test but I have sucess in the faster water. I also use 10 lb or 12 lb test. I use 2/0, 1/0, and size 1 hooks. I use solid core lead hooked up with a small piece of rubber tubing about 18 inches up from my hook, no leader, just mainline. I like to use orange , flame orange, and pink, chartreuse yarn. The best time catching summers for me is May to early July and late August to mid-November. I find it hard to hook anything late summer when its hot and the water level is low. Been experimenting with floats and jigs and lighter line and smaller hooks with no sucess. Seems to be alot of no biters. Just be persistant. A little rain would help.