Btw, something interesting that happened on my home river (elwah) last year- There were natives snagging on the res. side of the river, and one of them broke off their big 12/0 trebles on a coho. my fishing partner/teacher was fishing the same hole, and caught the fish by the treble- the hook from his spoon actually hooked into the eye of the treble hook. kind of a poetic justice, if you ask me