Big T, I am a tad familiar with the muckelshoot tribal fisheries in the Green/Duwamish/Bay/area 10A,LK Wash,Lk Samam,etc,etc, I do know that a great deal of tribal funds are spent on the watersheds,and salt water areas that you are curious about. I am willing to bet that in the last 5 years alone The tribes Suquamish,Muckelshoots, have spent more money on rearing fish than WDFW has spent in the last 10 years. I know that they have more than a few pen sites in salt and freshwater, I know that they all but took over the sockeye fishery in the lake wash/cedar system when at the time the state just about gave up on it completely. You might have the tribes and not WDFW to thank for the past few fisheries in the lake. They co manage the hatchery facilities localy, they do spend alot on all kinds of projects that are in mine and your best interests. The last time I heard this was all being funded by a tiny percent of the casino profits,and other funding sources. I was told the following when I had to many concerns about the allocation in the green. Say the tribe spends $300,000 to support the fishery in the green. They produce a million fish for release in the green, were talking all salmon and steelhead smolts. Say that the total return of those fish are about 60,000 out of those 60,000 the tribe has to wait down in elliott bay for what is left after they are fished on in the coastal areas, straits,san juans,admirilty,puget sound,etc,etc. The fish they raised get fished on all over the place, and they have to wait and grab the most they can where they are allowed by law. You and I can go to any place to fish on what could be green river stock but they wait until everyone else is done fishing on that stock before they get a crack at their $300,000 investment. The numbers i used were just an example. Call Mike Mahovilich At the Muckelshoot tribe and he can give you exact figures on $$$spent by the tribe on fish related projects. WHEW------- Now my opinion. BAN ALL GILL NETS IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON>>> PERIOD.. Chatge an extra $25 on your liscense and use it to buy back permits, and projected harvest numbers from systems in question by averaging the past 5 years total monetary value of that fishery. In essence pay to not fish. Just a thought...