Just so you understand, the trip last week to the Vedder was my first real experience using floats ever. If I'd had more helpful advice such as some of the info Beeks second post (thanks Beek) about shortening up on the float I'll bet I could have snagged a lot less fish. Thanks for the tip! I'll be sure to do that next time. My snagging was and non-intentional!!! I just didn't know that about float-fishing. I am sure I have lots more to learn about fishing with floats too.

It does both me though was the approach (and I am new to the board so this may not be a general thing) to go directly to insulting before getting more info or attempting to educate. That's unlikely to change anyone's behavior. Just so you understand, I have no problems at all re-evaluating my approach, that's why I joined this board for gosh sakes! I am getting back into fishing after almost 10 years and know I have a lot to learn. But it's education and not insults that are going to help folks like me. The tip on shortening the float depth was exactly what I needed.

Trip report: went back up yesterday and the fishing on the upper Vedder seems to have slowed way down from last week although the water seems to be up about 3-6 inches (clarity still high though.) A lot fewer fish rolling, ones that were seemed darker. Only luck I had on the fish was by going down to light leaders, float, flourocarbon and egg clusters. I think I hooked 9 fish in 6 hours. I would tend to believe that fewer were foul hooked as I was mostly burying the smaller hooks in large clusters of eggs to avoid snagging, and several times after a short hookup they came back with every egg in the cluster crushed. My hope was that it was due to a true strike but can't be sure.

Talked to some other fisherman and the one said he'd only seen 1 fair hooked fish all day. I won't be going back up this year, wasn't interested in a snag fest in the first place and the fish seemed to be operating in that mode now from what I saw/heard.

Thanks for the tips on the float fishing, I'll be sure to keep it in my mental toolbox for next time I use floats.