Save your money and get something other than Frogg Toggs. Picked up a pair at the sportsman show last Jan. Wore them for the first time on a trip to Neah Bay and boy did it rain out there. They were completely waterproof but the first time I went to pull the snap on the pants pocket, the damn things ripped at the seam on the pocket. mad The other downer is that they fuzz up and catch everything especially hooks beathead