Two things come to mind here! One the reason the escapement on natives last year on the Quinalt was high last year was the tribe had to pull their nets early because of the low sockeye returns allowing a few extra natives to swim upstream unmolested!!! I have fished the upper river for years and believe me the native runs have been declining drastically the past five years, like Rich I kind of like to do my own reed counts to figure out areas to fish the next year and have seen fewer and fewer spawner's every year right on Rich!!!