Totally agree on all with the GeForce 4, 4400 Ti cards. The 4600 Ti is too much more money for the very modest increase in power. Providing of course you're looking for a 3d video/gaming card. I'm currently using an Abit Siluro GeForce 4, 4400 Ti card. It doesn't come prepackaged with a bunch of games and stuff. Just your basic high-end video card and drivers. It also scored as among the most focused cards. This is achieved by closely adhereing to the manufacturers (Nvidia) build specifications. You can find out more if you want to do some research at Tom's Hardware. Use this link: http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021218/index.html