"My point is and has been that under your logic smokers and obesce folks should get no healthcare because they chose to do that or become that way."

I never said that I said they should pay for their own health care. You choose to take it to the extreeme.

"It is like your analogy of saving lives by having everyone stop driving. If I really wanted to save lives I would prevent births. It's moronic logic"

Again you take it to the maximum extreme. Driving is not require to live. Being born is. Your extreme point is moronic squared.

By your logic we should cover drivers that choose to drink and drive and randomly bash anything that they choose.