Thanks Chuck, and Stam for getting things back on topic.

Stam, that Elk Looks great for an "amature". Not to mention it is an awesome Trophy. An elk like that would be a Once in a lifetime Trophy for me.

I'd rather not pay full price for a new rig either, but i have some "special circumstances" that make me very wary of buying used vehicles.

And that is another reason I think The dealer may have been trying to get over on me, but I will reserve judgement on that.