fishing on the vedder has started really slow. For most of the "better/avid" local stellheaders , fishing in december can be very good with nobody around. I usually quit fishing the river after jan.15 because word gets out about good fishing and the largest crowds show up. This year has started out slower than recent years and fish have only shown recently in good numbers. Vancouver island is still slow with the stamp system having it's best fishing for winter runs recently and this is at least 6 weeks late.