thanks for all the responses, these worms really do produce well and i have been fishing them exclusively in all drift fishing situations and when it's float and jig time, 75% of my jigs are tipped with el wormo..those seducer 10 packs have been costing me $4 each, i agree parker, i am digging through magazine stacks right after this post for my old bass pro shop catalogs, maybe i'll finally be able to afford to get one of these beasts i've been catching on the worm mounted ...and a lot of the damage to my plastics is probably due to root wads and such...one more question: after getting snagged up and breaking off several pink worms in the same hole, do those fish holding there become conditioned to the worm and refuse to hit it any longer?? i see quite a few accomplished anglers on the bb's talking of using pink worms, but i never see anyone else on the rivers i fish using them(that is until my fishing partners see me hook hog after hog on 'em)..long live the pink worm!! tube jigs are my next experiment