I've had good results buying from Bill Pierre "Fleet Direct" for my business. I've bought 6 new powerstrokes from them over the last few years and it's invoice (yeah right - like Parker said) + $100-$200. You don't have to be a business owner to use the fleet direct system. Just call them, tell 'em what you want, and give 'em your fax number. You'll get a bunch of invoices in a day or two. They will dicker a little, but generally the price is a very reasonable (yeah right - $40k for a friggin' truck!!!) Don Rose is the salesman I've used since 1996, and he's been with Pierre for 20+ years. No "sales pitch" at all. If you're buying used, go private party!!!!