Aunty you might also remind them of the huge summer chum(SC) runs in the Union and Quilcene Rivers this year in the Hood Canal portion of the SC ESU. Quilcene run returns have been a huge success for bout 5 years. Also Chimacum and JimmyComeLately Creeks last year in the Straits portion of the SC ESU. All supported by hatchery efforts and changes in harvest management. Expand these efforts to a couple more rivers and we'll have our first delisting of a threatened salmonid. BTW none of these hatchery efforts are intended for the long term but just the same they are really working to restore these fish. BTW Rob these runs are spawning naturally and at least in the Quilcene self sustaining.