Thanks for the info, I was wondering if the hatchery had a king run or if they still release cuttthroats in October still(they did a few years ago) I spoke with the hatchery guy last year during the silver run and asked why all the fish were wild(no fin clipped) and he said they are all hatchery and that they release them in the river but dont mark them. You said lynched? During March it looks like blue creek up there so it not even close to being a zipper! The capital lake idea sounds good, I may take the ole kayac and paddle up to under I-5 and catch a dark king for my racoon friends outside(yes, I feed the damn racoons, for some stupid reason I think they are cool)