Thanks Surecatch and Paul.

Paul, do you know what Owner hook your brother is using. When I looked at the line of owner hooks, none appeared to be traditional styles. I probably missed them, but the were all offset, or for holding bait or ....

If your brother knows what style of owner hook he uses, I'd be interesting in knowing.
I would like to give them a try.

Also, do either of you use 2 siwash hooks off a split ring? I set them up so they hang facing one another, and it seems to work well.

Thanks again