gettnsnapper, something smells a little fishey here. 9-15-2003 topic what quil are you talking about and 10-15-2003 topic look daddy i can snag like you. kinda strange that both threads you put up talk about halibut -sturgeon rods 40lb test and fathers that are teaching kids to snag by the way its not a good idea to talk about cwp permits if indeed you have one. c does stand for concealed doesnt it?