What timberman did not say is out of many many fish none were handeled,netted removed from the water!! my policy is usually break off the leader as soon as I can reach it and never touch the fish chrome or dark if at all possible. Those fish were touched and out of the water for about 5 seconds thats why the pic of the double was kind of blurry and the fish I was holding is heads down I have great respect for are resource and try to treat it accordingly so for all the skeptics believe me when I say that is why you don't see my picture plastered on the internet all the time. For instance today was a banner day of chrome steelhead(winters) chrome hog silvers and a couple of the biggest brightest kings I have seen In years no pictures but oh thanx for the memorys!!!PEACE, like bob said in another post their baacckk!!!