I have had my Cannon Mag 10's for the last two years and have been very pleased with them. They have done the job for me.I got them refurbished from Jerry's surplus in Everett. Came with the same warrenty as if brand new. Paid $350 a piece for them. Was at Jerry's the other day and they may have them at the sportsman show in Puyallup again. Have also ran Scotties. Only thing I don't like about them is your DR ball doesn't stop when it hits the water line like the Mag 10's do. And if speed doesn't matter to you the Mag 10's will work just as good as the Scotties. What ever you choose you won't be disappointed. Anything is better than hand cranks:D. Good luck with your decision.