Thats it , Joe Littles tie-master knot tool is the way to go. It only takes a few times using it and it then becomes second nature. I wont go fishing without it. Its become part of my arsenal. I have personally seen a guy loose 3 big kings at astoria a few years back , while he mocked me for having the tool.. I then showed him the knot strength the tool makes and he was a beliver. I also use the tool for all my knots. I have never had a knot break while using the tool, your line will break before the knot ever does, regardless of what type of line you have.