mike, appreciate the input, we are going, as we are all facing orders sooner or later and may not get another chance to hit neah bay. just got a vhf radio and gps this week so we should be ok if the water is not crazy. my boat is posted in the thread about boat pics if anyone wants to offer thier input on its suitablility for neah bay? we plan on skirting the shoreline down to around mushroom rock. we mainly just want to catch some fish, don't care if they are black rockfish or 300 # halibut, as long as we live to talk about it