Fresh from vacation with more questions! Shore zinger, are you telling me to put my bait-hook-plug above the weight? opposite of what I've heard, or are you just confusing me? I'VE only heard of putting the weight on a swivel above the main line. I've used droppers too and they just twist around my line. I just attached them above the main line last time, but no fish so I'm open to ideas.

Ok, probably should be new question, but I am happy to try to ask those who use sliding weights for now. I'm at the ocean, I am fishing the incoming tide on the mouth of the river. I found one man in the whole town that would admit they fish and tell me how they do it. He told me about plunking herring or plugs, but with a float and I thought I understood. I did get my bait off the ground away from the crabs, but it was totally entwined when I brought it in. I kept re-rigging-thinking of how the water was showing it underwater. No matter what I tried, my hooks would still be flowing the wrong way. The tide was coming in, and my hooks were flowing back behind the lures and bait. Or upriver if that is more clear. S o I am waiting on fish (and I did see salmon coming in) and my gear is flowing forward of them unlike a normal river where they are swimming up and my line is flowing back.. I am sure there is some obvious answer, but I swear I re-rigged things a hundred different ways. I did much better with the less finicky crabs, they were my only catch except for a few cabezon(I think).