i went to the skok yesterday for lunch and saw what made the carbon look nice. Everybody I was standing next to was tryin to jones the fish. They wern't even trying to hide it either. Then we went down river aways, for some sollitude, and about 10 minutes a truck came bouncin down the dirt tribal road accross the river and out hopped 4 adults w/their young kids. One girl was reachin into the hole we were fishing w/a net w/a 10' handle tryin to scoop out the fish. We quit fishing and watched in amazement as her brother, im assuming, chucked a 2ounce lead w/ a leader of 5 huge trebbles on it. After the first two casts, and fish. we left shaking our heads.