To those concerned with "secret places" (fishdreamer) you'll notice I gave no more info than what a map would show---a public fishing area. I never would think of identifying an individual hole on this board.--mine, yours, or otherwise. I said "walk around and cast away", which is pretty darn non-specific. If anyone thinks that entire fishing parks are their own "secret place", they are naive beyond what I would think is possible, and need to take a serious reality check.