theking, like I said some things never die. Why is what Ted kennedy did as a kid have anything to do with todays world? In response I simply brought up Neil, who actually screwed up big time several times during his adult life and Laura who also made a mistake when she was a kid. I hold none of this against them, well, except Neil with the S&L scandal. You wonder how many skeletons are really in the closets of these very rich very powerful families but were successfully covered up?