"Show me someone that thinks that Bush as President would be better for the environment (and wild salmon in particular) than Kerry, or Al Gore if he had gotten the Presidency, would and I'll show you someone who's delusional. "

What is delusional is forgetting the history of politicians and policies that put the environment in it's current state. Then ignoring the fact that those political agendas and policies are now so entrenched in our lives and that any one party or politican can reverse their effects. One needs to look at their life and all the things in it and the impact the changes needed will have. Have you done that. Have you done your part for the salmon? Have you quit using electricity, lumber, mined products ,agricultural products, have you set a side 10 acres of land in the PNW to remain untouched by man for eternity to mitigate your impact? Well have you or are you a typical psuedo environmentalist that is all talk and no action and really has no clue what he is saying but it sounds good to other pusedo intellectuals. Lets hear your story?