Todd - much of what you said is right on. We need to get rid of those that trash our rivers, we need to eliminate blatant snagging (i.e. a fish not hooked in the mouth), etc. The part I have a problem with is putting those people who bead fish (what is being called "flossing" here) in with the scum that you describe above (i.e. those that trash the river and blatantly snag fish). What do you say to someone who occasionally fishes with beads, but is also a huge voice for the resource, and practices catch and release, and will fight to the end to make sure the resource remains stable and in tact for generations to come? Is it worth offending these folks - (and you know there are folks here on this board that fish beads occasionally) - is it worth offending someone who could one day be your biggest ally in the fight to save our fisheries, because you carelessly looped them in with the bad element on the river only because of the method they employ? I think you may be being short-sided, and need to be careful not to over-generalize. And yes, I occasionally bead fish...but I also fish a river where they recently raised the limit to 3 becasuse of the over-abundance, and I never keep a snagged fish, and I relaease 80-90% of the fish I catch, and I can make an argument about the ethics of several types of fishing (seen "jigging" for Salmon in your area yet? It's coming). Bottom line...don't loop me in with the scum that ruin the rivers with their bad habits just because I bead fish. You will force me to explain the potential "unethical" arguments for many of the other methods of fishing, and then we are back to my post above where the anti-fishing gang is the only group that wins...