I reread my post after getting some sleep. "Idiots" was probably a term I usually wouldn't write about such a large group of strangers. It still puzzles me why anybody who was trying to legitimately trying to hook a fish would stand in the middle of a line of snaggers.

Almost everyone who I have talked with who has gone off by themselves has done exceptionally well. I have had a few hours of lockjawed action even then, but it still is better then standing in line running 8 foot leaders through nervous fish.