Its apples and oranges.. It all works. However, don't agree with the "hold the rod in your hands thing" not a good idea. Put them in the holders so you can see what they are doing at all times. The two butt heads up front pay attention for awhile and after that they start waving the things all over the place. When a fish does hit it scares the crap out of them and they YANK. Steelhead hook themselves with plugs.. they don't need any help from you.. No nibbles or bumps, its flat take down time.