Yeah I only found 2 models that I would be interested in at my local PS's. Problem is that they wont let pull the muffler to look at the piston and cylinder wall to really get the whole story on these saws. I really dont wanna get a saw that needs rebuilding from the jump. I really wasn't trying to go new cause I will probably be looking for a 066 here in a few months when I start felling some monsters.