Congratulations on the hard work, I didnt mean to sound like I was attacking you lazydrifter. I said we can solve fishtuff's problem by any of our suggested ways. My point was that our suggestions to fishtuff dont help the big problem.

You do help me prove my point. You said "We hunted Eastern Wa. for 10 years, knocked on doors, gave away smoked salmon, crab and oysters, drove hundreds and maybe thousands of miles looking for what we want." This says that you are willing to go the extra step to get what you want in a hunting experience.

The thing is, we all want that experience but we all wont make the sacrfice to get it. We expect it to just be there when we get there. I would guess that every person who purchases a license would like to get that first elk or that life time trophy they have been waiting for. We can all check the harvest reports on the web and see that these type of dreams did not come true for many. This is a direct result of to many people, not enough animals, and not enough public land to support it. You and your party have put a lot of time and money to get what we all expect from our state.

It is about Idiots. Can you tell me, that the story behind every door you knocked on had a pleasant experience with trespassing hunters or letting someone on their land (before the offer of smoked salmon)? Can you tell me that you have never seen a sign that read "Respect this Property"? I was fishing last weekend and farmer from the area was their talking to people at the launch. He told me that many of the landowners in that area dont want hunters on their land or they lease it and make a buck (eastern WA).

Not all farmers are poor. I have worked for enough of them to let you know that they are only poor on paper and to the goverment.

What we have, we can make last longer.