I started hunting walkin only areas that are within timber co. lands. During Elk season we camp at a gate and ride our horses into the walk-in area every day. My party of 3 has shot at least 1 bull every year for the last 5 years. We went 3 for 3, 3 years ago and see multiple Elk every day. Usualy the start of season sees several hunters ( 8 people last year ) by the end of season everyone disapears( 0 the rest of season last year). Ironicaly every bull we have shot in our area has been on the last 2 days of the season. We usualy hunt deer in the same area and I can't remember any of us not filling our tag with a self imposed 2point minimum. I would attribute our success to low pressure, hunting the same area and beating the woods every day the season is open. We also spend alot of time in our area during the off season. We can usually tell how many legal bulls are around by the time season starts. Works for us and we hunt modern firearm Western WA and see no reason to leave.