Thanx Mike. I almost went with set out of cabelas. I think I'm going to try a sidewinder. They dont have releases and a bunch of hardware on them. The line is the release. Once you pop it the board stays in line with the fish so you dont have to fight the board. Kind of like a pink lady deep diver releases. You can check them out with a google search or at AXfishing.com. Maybe you have seen it advertised.