Todd and Smalma,

It seems bizarre, to me, that we have selective regs for fishing over stocker trout, in lakes, but allow bait and barbs when fishing over ESA-listed stocks. (We're sending the message that hatchery fish in lakes are more valuable than native fish in rivers.) The way to sell selective regs is to say it's that way, or no way (to fishing). My home river first had a total shutdown, then a short CnR season was allowed (and an occassional brat season). It's amazing what selective regs can do for wild residents.

I'd really like to see science drive seasons, and methods, of fishing rather than politics (fear of a hard sell).

I wouldn't be afraid to do what we need to do, to save fish stocks. More ineffective incrementalism is the last thing we need.