Parker ...same as you...never fished below douglas...all our hump come from the launch up to the first corner...now when the Ho's come in Sue n I actually take the db up into the Thomas Ed but thats another thread for later time...all I can say is "I don't waste Dick nites on humpies...and I don't throw crappy 20 cent jigs at Ho's" but we do catch a few ho's on those crappie jig...i've already seen this year...