oh...as for the Seiku derby..its the Lions club putting it on...i belive that the tickets are 10 bucks...40 percent payout to first 20 for second 10 for third and 5 for fouth...it does not say anything about other prizes as far as i know...just called up there...hard to have a derby last min, and dont know why they did it against the La Push derby, but i think it was a last min thing...i would do La Push if i could...Seiku is just Coho...c