Originally Posted By: Todd


I take that back...it would make a bunch of dudes who blame everything on harvest, and don't care about the other 98% of the factors that are screwing our fish runs, it would make them feel better, for a little bit, at least, until they saw that it did absolutely no good whatsoever.


Fish on...

Todd


Noone is saying that. You have to look at the whole picture. Pure and simple some groups are focusing on the problems at the wrong time.

The first problem in this state was overharvest. We had hatcheries before we had dams. Who was responsible for the overharvest, white man or the tribes? If the state had required the spawning level of native fish to remain high, we would not need hatcheries. Mismanagement of hatcheries have been an ongoing problem. The assumption all fish were the same has hurt the other runs. Dams dont help fish. Culverts dont help fish. Dairies dont help fish. Islands full of birds dont help fish. Seals dont help fish.

We also have protection status for a lot of user groups and predators. That has to be dealt with. Planting more fish does not solve that problem.

When you have a user group, that wont police itself or and cans excess fish, which the govt will buy, they have no incentive to cut back the harvest. Its pretty clear, the state isnt interested in having a healthy crop of each salmon. They havent told the truth and they havent required the netters to live within the means of the resource.

Solve harvest issues
solve tribal issues
solve habitat issues
solve reproduction issues.

Dont muddy the water about what the tribes will or wont do. We have never been in the position, that list would put us in, with the tribes. Tribes did not have harvest, so they started at the top of the list. Now, they have harvest and they took the state to court for culverts. Sportsman dont have adequate harvest and we have to start at the top of the list. We cant start with the tribes, without looking like racists. We have to change the way the non tribals harvest and we have to control how much.

Commercial fisherman have a job, not a god given right to do that work forever at the demise of the resource and over the rights of other user groups. Noone can produce more fish, than the commercial netters will take.

Fish are a commodity. No different than trees or wheat or corn. There are more people using that and prices reflect that. Govt does not take any other crop, to my knowledge and divide it up between the users. Fish are the only crop that is being selectively distributed for the benefit of one user over another. The total harvest between all the groups have been too high, since the day it was discovered. They want to treat fish like an apple orchard or a corn field and its not working.