I thought the same thing,when you rely on the fox to count the chickens you will never get an accurate answer. I just wish I knew how to set up a deal between the Japanese markets and the tribes to harvest a small , managable portion (say 25%) of the seals and sea lions in the Columbia. I was talking about this to some other fishermen the other day . They said it would not work because of them being protected, but I said that wasn't stopping them from taking protected steelhead in nets.