Dave ,I have no doubt you know clamming, I was just expanding on my "not worth messing with" opinion. Ya,I too remember those days way back when going to the beach with a 5 gal bucket and not stopping until it was full. To me streamers are native little necks and manila's and those 3" + butter clams and geoducks are the meat clams. Hey,you every run into guys on the beach that say they got their limit of geoducks and you look in their bucket and it's full of horse clams? That cracks me up.