Originally Posted By: stam
Originally Posted By: Salmonella




..She knows and understands issues affecting hunters, both natural and legislative.





Not saying that I couldn't vote for her, but I would disagree with that statement...and here's why

The biggest threat to to our and future hunting and fishing opportunities is not liberals or anti's or any of the other calls to arms....The biggest threat is quite simply too many people competing for the same limited numbers of resources. Overpopulation.

She has chosen to have six kids and that disqualifies her from being any kind of advocate for pretty much anything...she may be able to raise and support them just fine, she's obviously not trailer trash or a welfare mom...but to me she has proven that she does not understand issues regarding protection of anything just by making that choice.

Consider your old favorite places to hunt or fish....why can't you go there and do what you did anymore? did a liberal democrat close it? Or, did the hordes in orange kill all the deer and elk to the point of needing protection? ...Or, better yet, did a huge corporation (hancock) buy up massive plots of formerly accessable land close them to public access then start their own hunting ranch selling public animals to the highest bidders....sounds republican to me. Another scenario, public land being leased to cattle ranchers then overgrazed and abused to the point of being unfit to support wildlife...once again, generally republican.

"Convert all resources to cash" seems to be the battle cry of the republican, then blame the democrat when it's gone.

Either way we're fu.cked on this one. I'm voting for DanS, the man is in possession of more common sense that both tickets and all party members combined.

stam


Stammy, You know I admire you and consider you a friend, but I will disagree on this one.
I can understand how you draw your conclusions.
As far as hunting goes, the problem of supply/demand is exactly the reason that all western states have gone to lottery draw/preference point systems.
I'll agree that it ain't the "good old days" where you just load up the truck and go where you want.
Hell There are some primo deer & elk units in Colorado that take 14 points (years) to draw.
I refuse to hunt the general tag areas.
This year I applied for hunts in nine states trying to secure a hunt for the fall, and drew one.
If I can't draw limited entry areas I stay home.
As far as deer hunting goes, I am one of the lucky ones that get to hunt private land close to home for free.

Every single hunting oriented conservation organization endorses Republican candidates for predident.

Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
Foundation For North American Wild Sheep
Mule Deer Foundation
The Boone & Crockett Club
Ducks Unlimited
Wild Turkey Federation
Safari Club International
Grand Slam Club
etc...

These organizations have provided incredible protection for the environment, wildlife and the crucial habitat that it requires AND protection of the our hunting heriage.

I still don't buy the Todd analagy though. you know the one that says " there is nothing left to hunt in the post Bush barren wasteland."

Try as I might I just cannot find a comfortable place among the hard left liberals.
I despise the racist concept of affirmative action.
When healthcare is socialized, my hard earned benefit package (read wages, is devalued)
I don't believe gays need more rights than the rest of us (hate crime legislation) though I could care less about civil unions or gay marriage.
I don't believe that the bar should be lowered in society so that women can make the team (police, fire fighters ,military) Though certainly they have valuable positions there.
I still hate hippies and the way they try to jam their utopian beliefs down my throat.
And yes, the treehuggers that are trying to reduce my hunting opportunities are all democrats.
The handgun & assault weapons mean nothing to me but the second ammendment has absolutley NOTHING to do with hunting.

The support of republicans based on a love of hunting is indeed a double edged sword.
As long as the major hunting based conservation based organizations that I belong to continue to back them however, I will find it very difficult to go the other way.
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