Nice try at obfuscation with throwing in the Bush administration. I'm talking general principles. If you want to rehash the rights and wrongs of the Bush administration, there's other threads for that. I'm not talking about a nation, I'm talking about a culture, thought that was clear. Is there a difference between enemy combatants and terrorists? Should the enemy be treated as they would treat us or as we would like them to treat us? Whole religions founded on that debate!

On one hand I can see taking a high road all the way, but is this wisdom if the other party in war is not? But where do you draw the line? I asked the question on the other board and at least got back an intelligent answer: "Do you fight crime with crime?" Pretty thought provoking question. An (in)famous chapter of Montana law involved vigilante justice. It worked, but was it justified under the rule of law? When does the rule of law break down?

Still confused about semantics?
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