In most cases people are up side down in their vehicles once they drive off....I've seen some pretty good deals though, 4000 rebate 4500 clunker, 9 grand difference on a 09 Ranger...not bad...

Boosting the economy not quite sure about that, most of the sales guys get paid $100 per car deal on new because they are all invoice deals...The dealer itself is getting 400-500 in holdback if that...Crazy
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