KK,
If you think I swallow the Republican lies, you are very mistaken. I hope half of what you spewed today is trolling, otherwise I really question your intelligence.

Todd,
I think the red states voting records have to do with a wide range of factors. Race, voting accessibility, religious beliefs, income, family status, and education are all factors that must be accounted for.

Seattle for example, votes highly liberal. My guess though is that if you took only married families with children, the numbers would be much different than the city in whole.

Perhaps looking at income for voting preferance is not nearly as important as looking at disposable income. Single people earning $120,000 will vote completely different than a married couples with 5 kids earning $120,000. A dual working couple with no children that have the same household income, will also, most likely, have other political leanings.

I bet you the single population of San Fransico votes entirely different than the married population. I wonder what that means?

So much of statistical findings can be changed by accounting for different factors. I hate these debates because in the end I think you all come out sounding like idiots, regardless of what side you are arguing.

If you want, I will create the parimeters of a innocuous sounding survey that will swing the political preference of King County more conservative or liberal. I can't say how much, but I can guarentee I could do it by 3 points or more without anyone being able to see. In some cases I probably could get a 10% or more swing. Quick examples only survey on Sundays between 9:30 am and 1:30. Bet is a lot different than if you survey the same number of households on Monday at the same time period, or perhaps on Friday nights. Wonder how much it would change if I also was able to use cell phone numbers during the same time periods. Who is going to stop on the street if I use good looking, professional 25 to 40 year old men and women compared to poorly dressed, over weight 35 to 65 year old women. What if I have the surveyors drag along their children or set up next in pikes place VS first ave vs on busses during rush hour.