Actually you are the one that said people on government assistance don't vote, not me... if you want to believe that, have at it.
I would imagine that being such a proponent for the "common man" you would have developed enough proof on this matter on your own but (apparently) you don't and expect me to provide it.
Truth is, you don't really want proof, and even if you got it you would rather spend hours debating the validity of it rather than entertain the idea you may have been wrong... your MO is like a broken record, stalemate the discussion with straw man and claim victory.
I will just assume that you are all in with Pelosi and the statement about musicians quitting their day jobs was rooted in the millions of musicians that are unable to reach full potential due to their concern with health care and that government provided health care will result in a musical renaissance.
Is this where I get attacked personally like Aunty M?
Some would call it predictable, not me... I call it reliable.
C'mon Marz... let's cut through your bullsh!t... shall we?
You're still miffed 'cause I asked if you got something you posted here a while back from FOX News.
Statistics PROVE that people on public assistance aren't likely to vote or to be involved in the political process in any meaningful way. Nancy Pelosi is NOT pandering to Welfare recipients... nor is she advocating people quit their jobs so they can receive free government healthcare. WHY would she? She has absolutely NOTHING to gain by doing so... and as I hope you realize, politicians at that level don't do ANYTHING that doesn't benefit them in some way. It makes NO rational sense at all.
So, keep up with the dodgin' and avoidin'. All you have is a bunch of "I know a lot of people who..." bullsh!t. You present absolutely NO facts to back up your assertions... talk about predictable.
Face it man, you're just an idealistic kid who just doesn't have a grasp on the facts... or reality for that matter.
Once again, you are assuming far too much...
You constantly call [censored] on things I say because it behooves your reputation to do so I guess. If you dont believe me, dont... but calling someone you know nothing about a liar in so many words is a perfect representation of what you claim to be against.
Someone that is so statistic / study driven and quick to call my experience [censored] follows up the next paragraph with "Statistics PROVE..." and you dont provide statistics.
You don't think Villaraigosa got any financial aid recipient votes? You don't believe that the welfare recipients and those that receive food stamps, grants, public health care, or other government assistance will look out for their well being? Once again, I see this as a ridiculous assumption based on my experience but I am not going to doubt your mileage may vary.
Pelosis statement resonates to a huge crowd of the sub-30 group that laps up this type of permission to slack like the sweet nectar of the gods. Believe it or not it also strikes a huge note with the die hard liberal crowd and the lower middle class as well... those enough constituents for ya? Not to mention the group you claim does not vote, those that receive aid. Do you believe it is also these "non-voters" that got the Marijuana bill on the ballot? Hate to break it to you but it isn't just old people and the working class that go to the polls these days and you may be surprised at the political consciousness of the youth, but since I lack the proper pie charts and line graphs, you can assume that too to be one of my yarns meant to deceive the brain trust of a fishing board.
As far as knowing people who... yeah, in the cases where I do 'know a lot of people who', I mention it, as I have FAR more faith in my personal observations and experience with this exact subject than the majority of the information that is out there. I dont expect you to believe me, and I dont care if you dont, I am just adding to the conversation topic with what information I have from real life actual experience... but if you prefer a blog post by some mid American English student... have at it.
I am far from a kid and I suppose everyone is idealistic in some ways but I dont know how much more 'REAL' personal experience can be... but that doesn't stop you from trying to derail the topic with a finger pointed at me expecting a thesis on the voting habits of American financial aid recipients.
You want to believe Pelosi did this without any motivation, go ahead... Just say that without making grossly inaccurate assumptions about me or what I say... (since Politicians of that caliber are always just shooting off statements like that under those conditions)
Yeah, I am really bobbin and weaving to avoid confrontation...
And I am the one lacking a grasp on reality?
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