No deer for me either. But had a spike with 3 ft tines and a good spread with major mass 20 ft from me. Deer looked old and wasn't worried about me, his body was as big as any deer I have seen 200-250lbs guessing. Wonder if mother nature forgot to branch his antlers and he has never been shot at in the 3 pt min unit he lives in, maybe thats why he wasn't scared. Also blew up my pressure hose for the power steering around 11, rebuilt it with tape, pepsi cans, and hose clamps and it actually kinda worked. But I didn't want to push it and go any farther so I was stuck at the same draw all day. Note to self always carry heat/pressure hose repair tape.