hanks for the clarification, I had recalled something similar. The reason I'm asking is a lot of guys have been getting fish on the lower section of my local river using 1/2oz steelees. There are no tailouts in this water, so this kind of flies on the face of conventional wisdom. Instead of just rushing out to the tackle store and buying some teardrop spoons I want to understand the intricacies amongst the different shapes as I have some rvrfshr's and daredevil styles spoons already. I guess it is a confidence thing.